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Welcome to the fourth episode of this special short season of The Pilates Diaries Podcast created to support and promote the rebuilding of the business of industry colleague and long term Pilates teacher, Kimberley Garlick. Kimberley’s studio business, Northern Rivers Pilates in Lismore was completely submerged in the devastating floods that tore through the region in February and March earlier this year. In pursuit of getting their business back on its feet, Kimberley has reached out to her extensive industry network and along with studio manager and daughter, Madison have created the Teach to Preach Retreat that will run at their studio in Lismore, November 4th to 6th this year.
On this episode Kimberley welcomes Daniel Vladeta. Daniel comes from a fascinating and diverse background across anatomy and physiology, neuroscience, molecular biology and Osteopathy, including myofascial and cranio- sacral techniques. After a career as a clinician, Daniel transitioned to working with a multinational spinal and orthopedic company in a role of developing surgical devices with top surgeons from around the world. On his return to Australia, Daniel continued to develop his ideas of biofeedback and self-regulating devices to aid with rehabilitation and functional exercise and the result was The Oov. Daniel now works with leading practitioners, collaborating on training to Physiotherapists, Osteopaths, Chiropractors, Exercise physiologists, Pilates instructors and Personal trainers around the world and not surprisingly is sought out by professional athletes in all sports including tennis, golf, rugby, AFL swimming and athletics.
Daniel’s presentation at the Northern Rivers Pilates Teach to Preach Retreat in November this year is called the Oov Balansit workshop and will cover assessments of the pelvis, intervention techniques to help SIJ, pubic symphysis pelvic tissue, including the pelvic floor and the orientation of the acetabular affecting hip function. Enjoy
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Hi, I’m Bruce Hildebrand and this is The Pilates Diaries Podcast.
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Welcome to this special short season of The Pilates Diaries Podcast created to support and promote the rebuilding of the business of industry colleague and long term Pilates teacher, Kimberley Garlick. Kimberley’s studio business, Northern Rivers Pilates in Lismore was completely submerged in the devastating floods that tore through the region in February and March earlier this year. In pursuit of getting their business back on its feet, Kimberley has reached out to her extensive industry network and along with studio manager and daughter, Madison have created the Teach to Preach Retreat that will run at their studio in Lismore, November 4th to 6th this year.
Our presenter introduction on this episode is Daniel Vladeta. Daniel comes from a fascinating and diverse background across anatomy and physiology, neuroscience, molecular biology and Osteopathy, including myofascial and cranio- sacral techniques. After a career as a clinician, Daniel transitioned to working with a multinational spinal and orthopedic company in a role of developing surgical devices with top surgeons from around the world. On his return to Australia, Daniel continued to develop his ideas of biofeedback and self-regulating devices to aid with rehabilitation and functional exercise and the result was The Oov. Daniel now works with leading practitioners, collaborating on training to Physiotherapists, Osteopaths, Chiropractors, Exercise physiologists, Pilates instructors and Personal trainers around the world and not surprisingly is sought out by professional athletes in all sports including tennis, golf, rugby, AFL swimming and athletics.
Daniel’s presentation at the Northern Rivers Pilates Teach to Preach Retreat in November this year is called the Oov Balansit workshop and will cover assessments of the pelvis, intervention techniques to help SIJ, pubic symphysis pelvic tissue, including the pelvic floor and the orientation of the acetabular affecting hip function. Daniel, welcome to the podcast.
Daniel Vladeta: Hey, Bruce. Thanks for having me. Hello, Kimberley!
Kimberley Garlick: I’m so excited to have you on this podcast, Daniel and super excited to have you a part of the Teach to Preach for so many reasons- whenever I talk about you, I remember the first time I met you and I wished my brain had a recorder that I could absorb every piece of information that you said. And we went out for dinner that night, and I just wanted to absorb all of your vocabulary and everything you had to share it was such an awesome experience. I am extremely passionate about what the Oov has to offer within our Pilates environment and the experimentation I’ve been doing on the Balansit as well is super exciting. So thank you so much. I was just going to ask what is a little bit about your background?
Daniel Vladeta: I’ve got a bit of a unique background. I studied Osteopathy back in the eighties and nineties and I also did a postgraduate in neuroscience, so I was really interested in this idea of understanding how our nervous system interprets information and how we can start to give it that information. I started treating clinically in the early nineties and had a practice, et cetera and life took me into an interesting direction- one, because I burnt out everyone in my clinic was really happy- all my patients were happy, all the guys working in the clinic were really happy and I was working hard and I was not happy! I gave every last bit of juice that I had to everybody and I literally burnt out and that was part of my lesson and my path and what brought me here, which was great. But I ended up in corporate of all places because I was at a neuroscience conference and there was a company doing 3D brain imaging used in surgery and I ended up doing some work with them- they were very small and they got bought out by a bigger company and I went there and I ended up in the medical device industry working for a big multinational U.S. Company was a NASDAQ listed company and had multiple roles from national here in Australia to international roles, including in Asia and Northern Europe and international roles in everything from being in surgery to helping develop devices and being the intermediary between the surgeon and our R&D team, which led me to studying biomedical science and biomedical engineering. So it’s an interesting background- I’m a bit of a “jack of all trades, master of none” and it was interesting because we got sold to a private equity company in 2007 and I was thinking about what I wanted to do and where I wanted to go- I had to pay my penance for the period of time after that buyout to stay there and I’d always been thinking of this device and I had lots of prototypes back in the mid nineties, and I was always thinking to develop a device for people’s spines and to give people information about their trunk and their skeleton and I decided to develop it which I started doing in 2007. And here we are 15 years later- it’s been an interesting journey and it continues on.
Kimberley Garlick: Because the Oov- I’ve heard it explained two ways- one that “Oov” standing for “Out of vocabulary”, the other way was somebody lied on it and just went “Ooh!” and then it became the Oov
Daniel Vladeta: Yep.
Kimberley Garlick: So those of you that have never experienced the Oov or even set sites on it, first of all I would Google it so you get a really good image because it gets explained by so many people as a sperm, a swan- there’s so many different anatomy, components, dolphins, all sorts of things that come into it. It is a three dimensional type of prop, but I’m going to throw it over to you Daniel, and explain how that whole component of developing it came about.
Daniel Vladeta: Well the first thing I wanted to do- because I had so many patients that I’d see and I want to send him off doing something at home, that’s the holy grail- that we start to get people brushing their teeth, like the dental industry have done an amazing job- they put the responsibility on the patient- you’ve got to floss and you’ve got to brush and if you go to the dentist and you’ve got a cavity- he doesn’t go ” I’m so sorry, let me help you, let me do that for you” like our industry does, because we’re all these empaths that want to help people and want to fix people! They go, mate, why weren’t you brushing your teeth properly? And it’s your fault, it’s your problem. I taught you how to brush your teeth properly and here’s how you do it. So this idea of a device that had information in it so when people used it, it was always different- it was, you know, their body’s different every day. So it’s almost like this ‘check in’ that you use to, find out where you’re at that day and to help, rebalance you that day. And if we’re going to balance someone’s body wouldn’t we have to try to make them balance!?- it’s not rocket science!
Kimberley Garlick: Daniel, what I love about it as a practitioner is you need less words so your whole vocabulary becomes very succinct rather than all of this verbal diarrhea- the Oov actually tells their body what to do.
Daniel Vladeta: It’s preceptive information, it’s sensory information. Now, I’m going to pull a study out that Brent Anderson did with Pilates instructors and they’re an educated subject group he used real time ultrasound and he asked them to activate their pelvic floor and roughly 50% lifted it up and 50% pushed it down. Now in an educated group of practitioners, if you have that disparity, what chance have you got of a lay person who walks in a street that they’re going to do physically, what you are asking them to do with a verbal cue? To me- not much! And everyone’s going to interpret it differently because it’s subjective. So what we try to do in our clinic and in our studio and hopefully the Oov is a tool that facilitates that it is a sensory information that we can then give someone’s body objective information of where they’re at- and they start to feel it and they feel what their body’s doing rather than someone telling them, oh, you are unstable there or you are not unstable there. They get to feel it, they get to experience it. And to me, that’s way more valuable than, me being able to say “Hey, you need to activate this or you’re not stable here.
Kimberley Garlick: And would you say when you’re coming from that neuroscience then that conversation neurologically to musculo-skeletal becomes present or literally at that time that then it stays in the brain for longer because you’re feeling it at the same time?
Daniel Vladeta: So much research about task based learning. Task based learning is giving someone a task. Kids do it, you watch them all the time, babies, you give them something, they try to figure it out and there’s so much research to show that when you actually figure something out that your limbic system goes bang and releases dopamine. And it goes up into the prefrontal and motor cortex down into the brain stem and cerebellum- and some are even saying spinothalamic tract and hard wires that experience, it creates a neural pathway. That’s why, when someone tells you something like that time, you did the course with me and you wish you recorded it- you don’t remember it- because you need to hear something four to six times before you actually remember it. But when you figure something out, you remember that for life, you remember that forever! It’s like riding a bike. For me, what I try to do when someone comes to see me is put them in situations where their brain has to figure it out and the less I say the better it is, I give them sensory input, sensory information for them to find their ‘aha moment’.
Kimberley Garlick: And you know how you say out of vocabulary, I love that as well, because for one, it may be that, that it’s this object that is unusual to what we normally experience, but it also takes us out of our vocabulary- it takes us into our body and our sensory components. Also what I feel- as practitioners- sometimes we do so much tactiling trying to fix this and put this in different places where again, we take that mosquito component out of it that annoying touching and the Oov does the tactile component for you! Talking about that tiring out as a practitioner, you can breathe.
You can just let the Oov do the talking.
Daniel Vladeta: And then you become the observer and you become the student I then am guided by that person’s body because when someone comes to see me I have one unique individual in front of me and I’ve got an opportunity to learn from that person that I’m never going to have that same learning from anybody else. And if I’m so busy getting caught up in what I want them to do, rather than putting them in a situation and sitting back and figuring out and watching how their brain figures it out- I’ve missed an opportunity to learn and be the student as well and learn from them. So for me, it’s really important to put them in an environment dynamically, which the Oov creates and allows to really then go, okay, what does their body need to understand and figure out what they need to do to find equilibrium, to find stability in that situation.
Kimberley Garlick: I love that because I often say to practitioners, when they’re going through their Diploma this job can be the most exciting job for the rest of your life, or it can be the most boring mundane job for the rest of your life. If you look at every person that comes into your studio as a new puzzle, that you have to solve then it’s exciting because every single time you see that person come in, you have a new puzzle to solve. Or you come in and every single person starts with footwork, every single person starts you know, there’s a process that you Ground Hog Day have to follow
Daniel Vladeta: Ground hog day Ground Hog Day! Horrible!
Kimberley Garlick: Yeah. So talking about the Teach to Preach- what are you talking about at Teach to Preach?
Daniel Vladeta: I’m going to be talking about the pelvis and this idea of pelvic rings- the upper and lower pelvic ring of the pelvis and how the orientation of the pelvis changes those rings- So you can have those rings where the upper ring is open and the lower ring is closed, you can have the upper ring closed and the lowering open, you can have the upper ring long in the sagittal plane and the lower rings long in the sagital plane, you can have it long in the coronal plane- there’s lots of different orientations, but more importantly, what that does is it changes the orientation of the acetabulum as well. And why that’s so important is if that socket changes, that’s going to change where that ball sits, which is going to limit specific movements. So when you start to see someone going “Wow, their flexion is really poor or their extension is really poor”- that may mean that their ball is already in that position in that joint. And why it’s poor is because it’s bone on bone. And if you keep on going and trying to improve that by doing more of that you are potentially damaging tissues! So what we want to talk about is that understanding where every single joint is in space, where that ball and socket are, is going to give you an idea of which direction you need to take that joint to create more space for that movement. So we’re going to talk a lot about the anatomy and what the pelvis can do. We’re going to talk how that affects the tissues and finally, we’re going to talk about how that affects the joints and it’s going to be quite practical because we’re going to use the Balansit, which is our new product which is this dynamic device with two curves in it, so it’s balancing in one plane and the other, but it’s also got this saddle in there that actually loads the tissues of your pelvic floor in different directions. And we’re going to talk about how you can change and load the pelvic floor in multiple directions to change those lower rings and that upper ring. I think it’s an area that Pilates doesn’t really have many tools in so what we are going to show is some very simple functional tests- because as you know with the Oov we always go into functional tests- so it’s not about where someone is statically, it’s what their body can do dynamically. So how well they can lift a leg up when their pelvis is in anterior tilt, how well they can lift a leg up when their pelvis is in posterior tilt, how well they can move their pelvis in the coronal plane, how well they can move it in the transverse plane and look at how well they can control those positions. So all of these factors then start to give us an idea of what’s happening in the pelvis and then how can we change it? It’s just a little workshop, it’s just giving some ideas and tools. I think it’s an area that possibly in the toolkit of a Pilates instructor, they don’t have a lot of tools.
Kimberley Garlick: I totally agree. I’m listening to that and I can’t wait to participate- because I’ve been experimenting with it because I haven’t had the opportunity to do anything with you with the Balansit yet- but even doing all of our seated footwork on the chair, it has changed that whole system of reference for the client phenomenally and they’re getting so much more, they’re not working through a hip flexer component, they’re actually finding a balance and they get up and their feedback is I feel freer through my legs. Yep. So
Daniel Vladeta: Awesome. And it’s awesome with it on The Chair with the split pedal, it’s amazing- also doing arm work in a dynamic situation on a box on a Reformer is really great as well, so yeah, we definitely incorporate it into the apparatus, but this is really just something very simple that we’re just going to start to give some functional tests for some practitioners to really understand, how we can assess functionally someone’s tissues and how we can change those. So bit of fun, we’ve been playing a lot with it. I’ve been using one now for about a year and a half- so from our prototype stage we’ve been using it in clinic, so we’ve learned a lot. So we are bringing some of that into the workshop.
Kimberley Garlick: And even the rings that you’re talking about with the pelvis, I feel that’s going to be new information for a lot of people because the basic anatomy and physiology components doesn’t really go into the pelvis, and what’s exciting is we’ve also got women’s health talking about the whole pelvic floor so this is going to marry so beautifully together.
Daniel Vladeta: And it also is related to what their interabdominal pressure is like- so if there’s a lot of pressure in the abdomen and it’s pushing that pelvic floor down, whereas a lot of negative pressure, it’s pulling it up- so like, depending on what’s happening upstream as well that can also affect the pelvic floor so we’ll talk about the different relationships between intrabdominal pressure and pelvic floor and the pelvic rings as well.
Kimberley Garlick: Amazing. And what is the product made out of? How did you come up with the composition of it?
Daniel Vladeta: Basically we’re using foam and it’s a self skinning foam- it’s a foam with a skin on it so it actually strengthens that, but we are still changing the formulation, we’re always constantly trying to improve what we do. It’s a foam that’s a memory foam- so when it compresses, it pushes down and we try to get roughly for the different sizes and there were different weight ranges it compresses roughly to 50% of its volume and then it pushes back and that’s a really important, the pushback is really important- it’s called high resilience and it’s extremely high resilience. So what that means is that when you sit on a normal foam you sit down on it and it just compresses and it collapses. But when you sit on the foam that we use in the Oov and the Balansit, when it compresses, it only compresses to a point, it starts to push back now, because our devices are all curved and crazy there are a reason for that because then they’re going to push back in lots of different directions and you’re never going to have a static device underneath you, whether you are lying on it, kneeling on it, sitting on it side, lying on it- all of the different positions we use Oov and the Balansit for- so you’ve got this device that is truly dynamic because it’s compressing and pushing back. So you don’t have something that just compresses and becomes static and that means that then your body and your brain has to learn how to control all those different positions and we can use it for assessment, which is super important as we’ve got lots of tests with the Oov and we go through and functionally assess someone. And we do that with the Balansit as well and assess and correct and control- teach someone how to control movement and then finally perform movements on something dynamic. So that sort of goes into what we teach in our Oov course.
Kimberley Garlick: And so on the Teach to Preach, if there was three things that you would like the participants to take away, what would those three things be?
Daniel Vladeta: Couple of things- understanding orientation of pelvis and these rings- number one- the anatomy. Number two, how that affects tissues and the tissues of the pelvis. And number three, how that affects the joints. And if they can understand that we’ve gone a long way to perhaps, helping practitioners change someone’s body really quickly without maybe necessarily thinking that we need to activate tissue all the time. There’s so many different types of tissue like you can have, if tissue is tight, we teach this a lot in the Oov course- it can be tight where it’s contracted and concentrically activated, but it also can be tight that it’s long and tight. so many of us and me totally guilty of it, that when someone has something tight and they go, wow, really tight, I’ll go in and try to release it- but if it’s long and tight we need to activate that. So if they can understand these rings and what that does to the tissues, then it’ll give them some tools of whether they need to activate or lengthen those tissues and we’ll give them some tools to be able to do that really quickly and simply.
Kimberley Garlick: Absolutely love that- that’s going to be a real ‘ aha moment’, as you’ve said before, I can already visualize everybody having all these little light bulbs- it’s going to be exciting and what’s really nice too, is you’ve got just the small groups to work with so they’ll be able to absorb that information firsthand from you, which is such a privilege to be working with you like that Daniel.
Daniel Vladeta: Awesome.
I’ve seen so many and I’ve taught a lot of Pilates instructors around the world. It can be an, a difficult concept for them to understand until they get it
The one thing I’ve seen with Pilates is to think it’s a repertoire, and yes, it is in a way. We go through very quickly to assess what someone can and can’t do, and there’s no value in me teaching someone’s body to do something that they can already do.
So starting from the beginning. and working through great, but test them really quickly and get to a point where you start to find out what they can’t do and that’s your starting point. Flogging a dead horse at the beginning and trying to get them to do something really rudimentary, is probably not the best return for your time and their time- number one. Number two, I would definitely say Pilates instructors seem to want to lengthen all tissue and especially tissue that people complain about being tight- which is why I suggested that because I’ll throw something out there- every single receptor in tissue from spindles, golgies- are there to alert the brain when the tissue is too long- that’s when the tissue gets damaged, you cannot damage tissue by over contracting it- you can get cramps, that’s different- but tissue can only be damaged when you over lengthen it and that’s when the alarm bell start ringing going “Ah, it’s tight!” and everybody’s natural tendency and me definitely guilty and definitely have done that in the past clinically is go in and go “Wow, we need to lengthen that tissue!” Rather than assessing what that tissue is. Number three would be not understanding where the joint is in space- and this is more of a philosophical one, but understanding where the joint is in space and I’ve seen so many and I’ve taught a lot of Pilates instructors around the world. It can be a difficult concept for them to understand until they get it- and then when they get it, then you’ll always remember it. But this idea of going where is that joint? And if you are trying to create movement and again, Pilates instructors traditionally think that if there’s not a lot of movement in that joint that is soft tissue or tissue restricting it, you’ve got to mobilize that tissue- that’s wrong because a lot of the time it also could be that the joint is at end range and that it’s bone stopping it! And no matter what you’re going to do, you are not going to improve that mobility! The way you improve that mobility is take that joint in the opposite direction- and what we do is we talk about it in our courses is you have to show it space. So if you see someone restricted, take the joint in the opposite direction and then start to see if that improves the direction and if that’s the case it’s probably already at end range- so understanding where a joint is, is really important- and it’s going to save a lot of angst for you and your clients- number one- but it also from a safety perspective is going to mitigate any risks of actually possibly damaging tissues as well. And you talk to a lot of yogis- I’ve treated so many yogis with labral tears. I can’t tell you how many have got labral tears and it’s because they kept on trying to improve their forward flexion, but what if that joint is already there? What if it’s got nowhere to go? It’s an end range and understand the orientation of the acetabulum and where the pelvis is, is going to be really important because you can create more space in that joint by changing the position of the pelvis, rather than lifting that leg up. There’s two parts to a joint and you can either move the socket or you can move the ball. And Pilates is generally about moving the ball, and doesn’t have a lot of tools about moving the socket. What we try to do in the Oov courses and what we’re going to start to learn with the Balansit as well is how do you change the socket to create more space for the ball to move.
Kimberley Garlick: Absolutely love that
Daniel Vladeta: One other thing and it’s an overarching thing and it’s every single Pilates instructor can change it right now- is that they’re terrible on their feet. They spend way too much time doing exercises on the floor. What are you doing? Trying to make someone improve moving on the floor. That’s not where they’re moving. And if you listen to Joseph Pilates everything was about getting them moving better, functionally in space. And yet every single Pilates session I’ve ever had, I spend most of the time lying down. How is that translating into standing and into real function? So what we do is that every time I do something lying down, I’ll take them on their feet to integrate it because if you don’t integrate it on their feet, what have you done?- made them move better, lying down. Wow. Awesome.
Kimberley Garlick: In layman’s term, then if we’ve done footwork on the Reformer- do squats standing
Daniel Vladeta: Do something functionally standing- yeah- integrate it, like some single leg work, some split, some lunges to actually start to get that movement and to integrate axially three dimensionally the trunk to get that function and that mobility and that change that you’ve just created in the hip joints into real world application that they’re going to have to have when they walk out of your studio.
Kimberley Garlick: It’s all about getting strength in a controlled environment so then when you’re in the uncontrolled environment your body responds quickly to avoid injury.
Daniel Vladeta: Yeah. And it always comes back to when you first start working with someone, the most important question you can ask them is one why you’re here but number two is what’s going on in your body that’s stopping you doing what you want to do and what you need to do. Most people who come to you are not coming there to be better at Pilates. I’m sorry- Pilates is awesome, and it’s great, but it’s such a small percentage of people that I’ve ever treated go I want to be better at Pilates and it’s usually Pilate’s instructors! Most people are there because they’ve experienced or been told or they’ve learned that Pilates is a great way to functionally improve their bodies. So number one, why that’s really important is already you’ve got what information you need, how to motivate them- if you can relate what you are doing with them in the studio and show them how that immediately relates to them, improving what they need to do- you build your whole repertoire and whole program that- they’re motivated- they’re going to do their homework, they’re going to be coming back they’re going to be seeing a direct relationship between what is being done in the studio and what’s happening to them in their life. That is the most important question you can ask them, and start building your program. And I try to get it done in the first session going “Okay, here are the first couple of things that you can do to change” and show them that if they do that, they’re going to be better at what they want to be better at, or need to be better.
Kimberley Garlick: And that’s retention right there- that’s retention of a client.
Daniel Vladeta: Not only that they’re going to get better- number one- and the referral rate is every person you help quickly, you get three referrals, not two- we find it three to one. And you’re going to get to the point, where we are it’s like “Please, don’t send anyone else”, because you just can’t cope with it because we try to get them within the first treatment where we find the little missing link that their body needs to do what it needs to do.
Kimberley Garlick: Joseph Pilates even said in his own language was you should feel different after your first session and start to notice after the 30th session, but you should walk out after that very first session, feeling different. And if you haven’t actually done that in that session, then you’re not promoting what their whole original philosophy about Pilates was for!
Daniel Vladeta: If they’re walking out going ” What was that all about?” Rather than if you can show very quickly to them a couple of little things that they can do that is actually going to help them get to what they need- that’s gold!- you are going to have a motivated client who’s going to go out and you don’t need to make them do homework- they’re going to do it and they’re going to be motivated- I’ve had people going, I just need to pick up my kid without pain, or I want to go to the Olympics!
Kimberley Garlick: So Daniel, I first met you in 2015 when you ran the first Oov course out of Sydney I remember lying on the Oov and we had the feet up against the wall and we were doing the bent knee opening and just sliding it under and having that amazing release in to the psoas and I just felt my whole body literally fall in love with this motion that I had been doing for years and it changed it automatically. And then we did an arm arc with the weights, but the way the Oov is structured around the spine gave me a complete different feedback to anything else I had experienced and I got off the Oov and it really changed my whole body, my sacro-iliac joint felt so much better than the diaphragm breathing- it really rocked my world! And from that day- as anybody who knows me knows literally from 2015, who’ve done classes with me it is involved in all of my sessions- so I’m so grateful to have met you and I’m so excited for everyone to experience you firsthand and also the Balansit- because it’ll be for the first time experiencing that and understanding that- so I can’t wait for everyone to be there.
Daniel Vladeta: And it just makes life so much easier as a practitioner, but also it expedites and accelerates the changes as you experienced- but everyone who we work with has those experiences because we are dynamically changing tissue relative to tissue that’s already dynamic versus dynamically changing tissue relative to tissue that’s not.
Kimberley Garlick: Amazing Thank you so much for your time.
Bruce Hildebrand: Thank you, Daniel. It’s been amazing having you articulate what you’re going to be covering on the Retreat it’s been great having you on the podcast.
Daniel Vladeta: Thank you for having me guys!
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